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  The State of the Labour Party

  by LoveUniHateExams in

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  so, we've recently had local elections across the uk on may 6.. mayoral elections, elections for councillors, and the hartlepool by-election.. labour did pretty well in wales, the snp did well in scotland, and the conservatives killed it in england.. hartlepool, a city that's been labour for 50 years, voted in the tory candidate.

  hartlepool voted for brexit in 2016 (70%) and the labour leader, keir starmer, thought it was wise to offer up a labour candidate who is a kent-born remainer.

  labour has seriously lost touch with its voter base, that base being traditional working class people.. it is now a party for students, social activists and the perpetually-offended, and trendy self-hating middle class people.. labour will continue to get its ass handed to it in elections until it actually starts listening to ordinary people, the voters.. and ordinary people aren't interested in woke nonsense such as preferred pronouns or taking the knee.. there has been much labour naval-gazing recently following the elections but i'd be surprised if anything is learned.

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  I'm glad anti-semites and Holocaust deniers don't get elected again in the UK, at least an outbreak of common sense.
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  400 Rockets Hit Israel

  by minimus in

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  israel retaliated and some are accusing israel of an “act of terrorism”.

  evidently these rockets are trying to get to tel aviv but the dome is getting overwhelmed.. i wonder if the usa and other nations will come to israel’s defense..

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  Tentative ceasefire. There was a ceasefire in place before, Hamas keeps breaking the promise. They have no control over their troops.

  Also funny to see Biden take the credit when he did literally nothing but exacerbate this situation. It was Egypt that brokered the tentative peace deal.
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  Phone-witnessing conversation

  by Anony Mous in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  just got called by a lovely elder(ly) woman trying to get a conversation started about the state of affairs in the world and if it is ever going to get better (this introduction is so old, this came straight from the old 1980's brown book of conversation starters).

  at first i asked whether she was a telemarketer, no, she is a "bible student".

  i hadn't heard that in a while, so i asked her what denomination, she kind of struggled and quietly said i'm one of jehovah's witnesses - the embarrassment was palpable.. so i said, oh, i'm one of jehovah's witnesses too!

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  Just got called by a lovely elder(ly) woman trying to get a conversation started about the state of affairs in the world and if it is ever going to get better (this introduction is so old, this came straight from the old 1980's brown book of conversation starters). At first I asked whether she was a telemarketer, no, she is a "Bible Student". I hadn't heard that in a while, so I asked her what denomination, she kind of struggled and quietly said I'm one of Jehovah's Witnesses - the embarrassment was palpable.

  So I said, oh, I'm one of Jehovah's Witnesses too! She sounded flustered after that. Asked me what congregation I was from. Oh, I haven't been to a congregation in a while. Why? Was it one of the "friends" that stumbled you? Yes, in a sense it was, I didn't find the support I needed in the congregation when my daughter was in the hospital and I was treated poorly and I put on the sop of having my newborn in the hospital (without mentioning the blood issue).

  Oh, but the congregation has improved so much in the last 30-40 years since we became members, that definitely wouldn't happen in the last 20 years (I must sound a lot older than I am). I stopped going about a decade ago. Oh... silence... well, what congregation was that. I listed her 3 notoriously bad congregations in our area that has since been disbanded. Oh I understand now, perhaps you want to try visiting again here in our congregation and she basically implied her congregation was so much better than "those".

  I said, no, I think the organization itself has been corrupted, I still love the people that go there and I still have friends which I have conversation with in the congregations, but I don't think the Watchtower organization can be an authority when it has been corrupted this badly. Then I want back to the story about my daughter and pivoted to the blood transfusion issue, talking about how even the Orthodox Jewish tradition believes that breaking the rules in the bible is acceptable to save lives. I asked her, I don't know if you have children, but if you do, put yourself in the situation where the court will take away your children from you and the elders are telling you not to 'or else', what would you do? Well, I decided to save my child's life, don't you think that's reasonable? She kind of had to agree with me on that.

  Well let me ask you a question: If the Watchtower and the Bible were in conflict, which would you believe. She got really flustered, I would have to do some research. Yes, but what if after doing all the research, you still found fault, which would you believe, because that's what happened in my situation. Well, I would have to accept the Bible is above the word of men. So why do you think the whole organization is corrupted?
  

  Oh, well, you can see the issues in the news with child abuse and the protection of the watchtower of elders that have committed great sins and I understand that the corporation has to shield the congregations and their elders from these issues, but it's still corruption when you allow these things to happen. "I never heard of those cases", oh, but your husband is an elder, he definitely has heard about those cases in the local congregations, I know of several cases, you can also go online and find these cases in the news.

  What is your name? My name is so-and-so, but I don't think anyone within the congregations would admit talking with someone like me. Oh, I don't believe that. My husband is right here, do you want to talk to him. No, I have to end this because I have another meeting, but as I said I'm still talking to many of my friends and I also have a great Jehovah's Witness community online - you should go to jehovahs-witness.net. Oh, I don't think I'll do that, but you can go to jw.org. Oh, I go there regularly, to research my positions.

  Oh, you're "one of those" she said, are you just going to wait for the end to come and then see where the dice land. I said, no, I have been raised a Jehovah's Witness, I have believed the end to come for all my life, I think that if Jehovah is a loving God, and there is some form of judgement day, don't you think he would look at me and judge me according to the good and bad I have done in my life, not just whether I belonged to an organization. Oh, yes, Jehovah is a loving God, he would definitely do that.

  Then I said, well, I have to leave now, it was nice talking to you. Well, I hope you can do some more research on our website. I said, you as well, you should go online and do your own research.
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  Watchtower takes parody poster to court.

  by Lost in the fog in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  another youtube presenter falls foul of the wt society's legal team.

  the watch tower copyright lawsuit targets creator of "dubtown" lego animations.

  https://www.toptutorials.co.uk/watch-tower-copyright-lawsuit-targets-creator-of-dubtown-lego-animations-torrentfreak/.

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  You can use copyrighted material in a fair use setting. The lego movies are definitely fair use.
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  400 Rockets Hit Israel

  by minimus in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  israel retaliated and some are accusing israel of an “act of terrorism”.

  evidently these rockets are trying to get to tel aviv but the dome is getting overwhelmed.. i wonder if the usa and other nations will come to israel’s defense..

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  @Red: Arabs aren’t treated as second rate citizens, they occupy positions in the army, the Supreme Court and governments. They are free to worship within the state of Israel, free to travel and buy and sell property, they can vote.

  If you’re talking about the Arabs in the Gaza Strip, those could easily join Israel if they gave up eradication of the equally indigenous Jews as their primary goals. They are there occupying land without a legitimate democratic government in place. If they wanted peace, why don’t they want to join Israel? Why don’t they allow Jews into the area? Once they moderate, they can also vote in Israeli elections and get represented in a legitimate democratic government.

  To say the Jews have no right to a sovereign state and that they should just put up with terrorists because they have a better army is just plain anti-semitism, as is evidenced in the quote of infamous anti-semite and holocaust denier Noam Chomsky. Imbalance of power does not mean that the losing side is oppressed, if someone enters your home with a knife and you shoot them with a gun does not make it an illegitimate defense.

  Even Egypt has built a wall to Gaza as they don’t want those people in their country, and they’re Muslim themselves. If the modern day “Palestinians” want to be ruled according to Islamic rule, they can move back to their ancestors land in Jordan and Iran.
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  Were You Ever Interested In Early Watchtower History?

  by minimus in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  i also was intrigued by the russellites and the break away sects that formed before and after charles taze russell.

  i can only imagine what the bible students were thinking when rutherford became the next watchtower president..

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  @minimus: Predecessor was “Herald of the morning” (roughly translated from Victorian English: Awake!)”. Printed by Nelson H. Barbour.
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  Bathing Daily Doesn’t Help The Planet

  by minimus in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  the new york times as well as other news agencies are reporting that in order to help save the planet we should limit our daily bathing.

  they say daily bathing really because popular in the 20th century because elites decided to impress and use petroleum based soaps and take advantage of their indoor plumbing.

  a lot of this daily bathing ritual was just for show.

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  There’s enough water, especially for bathing. The problem is location. People tend to live where water is available but a low threat. That also means there isn’t a whole lot of water there. Think California. Once these populations start growing however, you get a problem, together with poor water planning and government interventions like what is currently happening in China and California.

  But the Saudis and Israelis have overcome these issues, sure it it isn’t cheap, but it’s not impossible, with nuclear power, you can basically desalinate water for practically free forever.

  China has a major issue with water. All of their water is polluted, but the government doesn’t want to bring the market to bear so it is literally building waterways from one side of the country to the other, with disastrous results.
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  Were You Ever Interested In Early Watchtower History?

  by minimus in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  i also was intrigued by the russellites and the break away sects that formed before and after charles taze russell.

  i can only imagine what the bible students were thinking when rutherford became the next watchtower president..

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  The predecessor of the Watchtower was printed in Rochester, NY; if you look up the address on their magazine, it is now an ABVI office (Association for the Blind and Visually Impaired). Seems fitting.
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  Ah, Jonah. 3 day air supply explained ?Whale sharks gulp down air to float vertically while feeding

  by waton in

  1. social
  2. humour

  here from new scientist magazine: .

  whale sharks gulp down air to float vertically while feeding.

  life 12 may 2021by christa lesté-lasserre.

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  That’s true, but do you think if what he said contravened common beliefs, it wouldn’t have been noted? “this guy says the prophets were wrong” or “Moses writings aren’t really facts” would’ve made a hell of a bigger statement back then than “woe you Pharisees”
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  400 Rockets Hit Israel

  by minimus in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  israel retaliated and some are accusing israel of an “act of terrorism”.

  evidently these rockets are trying to get to tel aviv but the dome is getting overwhelmed.. i wonder if the usa and other nations will come to israel’s defense..

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  The UN mission in Kosovo was a disaster, they basically supported the wrong side and then NATO had to step in and it took a year of bombings to get both sides under control due to a severely lame-duck US general.

  As was Rwanda and every other so-called peacekeeping mission he UN has taken. When you can’t shoot belligerents, you’re just a sitting duck.